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All this talk of the obese being singled out by the government for claiming benefit?

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susie x
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 4:59 am Post subject: All this talk of the obese being singled out by the government for claiming benefit?

Would you, as an employer, want to employ someone who is not just a few pounds overweight, but has a real problem, possibly they are out of breath with the slightest exertion or (as I have seen and experienced) have difficulty in sitting in the chairs or perhaps standing for too long.I am not excusing this problem but perhaps its the employers and not the obese who are the problem.I must add that I am one of the lucky ones and dont have a weight problem but...walk a mile in their shoes I say!

berlytea
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:02 am Post subject:

If they walked a mile in their shoes...well I dont really have to finish do I?

*Fantasy*
Yahoo User

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:02 am Post subject:

and walk a mile in mine. I have to pick up what they drop cause they can't bend over without falling. I have to redo their work because they are unable to reach around the machine enough to do the job properly. I have to run out and find a chair for them to sit on quickly because they are out of breath every 15 minutes.. I feel like I am a caregiver and don't get paid for the extra work they cause me.. I am sorry but that is my truth

Boris 4 Mayor
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:03 am Post subject:

Yes you've hit the nail on the head

lbaker2656
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:03 am Post subject:

As an employer I would not want to employ someone who is grossly overweight. They are more likely to have health problems and time off work. Unfortunately a business would have to put money first sad but true.

crazydays_413
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:03 am Post subject:

it would depend on there personaltyand what kind of job it is

chris m
Yahoo User

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:05 am Post subject:

I think the government is right to get these people off the sick.I dont see why i should have to pay extra taxes to keep these people poncing off us at home, bit of hard work will rid them of their sedentiary lifestyle and possibly get some lard off their arse too. As for them having psychological problems with working because of whatever reason it does people good to get out and make social connections.

Dr Frank
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:08 am Post subject:

If anyone has a condition that could be a health issue at work and certainly any issue that would be likely to prevent an employee carrying out their job efficiently an employer would rightly feel that this was relevant.

nemesis-original
Yahoo User

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:09 am Post subject:

UNless someone has a metabolic disorder they get obese because of self-indulgence, greed, lack of self discipline and idleness----I would not employ anyone with those qualities.

RT(R)
Yahoo User

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:10 am Post subject:

well its important to remember that being overweight is NOT a disease. It is a choice. There is no such thing as a fat gene. Its simple. Our diets today are perfect for causing obesity. If you have a decent diet and exercise you will not be obese. You see people who are fat and have fat kids, they say oh its genetic. no..its not..its lifestyle. Parents feed the kids the same things they eat. and kids lead the same lazy lifestyle the parents lead. So much health problems can be fixed if people just lost some weight. Diabetes, joint problems, heart, skin etc. And if overweight people did what you said..walk a mile..then maybe they wouldnt have problems.

rastagrappler
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:19 am Post subject:

I don't need to walk a mile in anybody's shoes. I chose to run and hike many miles in my own, and thus am not overweight. There are many jobs an obese person can do quite well with only minimal workplace accommodations. If I were an employer, I would not automatically reject an obese person for a job. There are many, many competent obese people in the workforce. If two possible choices were otherwise equal, though, I would pick the non-obese person. They are less likely to have health problems that will disrupt a workplace. That is a fact, whether PC people want to admit it or not. On balance, obese people are a huge drain on society and the economy. For a lot less money than the government currently spends on obesity related disabilities, we could institute very good, effective anti-obesity education that would help our citizens learn the basics of proper nutrition and fitness at the same time they were developing the ability to read and do math. Of course, the people that run the government now don't want an educated, healthy citizenry. They want a bunch of couch potatoes who will gobble up corporate produced fake-food, endless hours of television and thousand and thousands of dollars worth of corporate medicine.

Jim
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:19 am Post subject:

It's not just the obese, but people suffering from depression and even some with acne! Here's an article I read earlier. http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20071119/thl-uk-britain-incapacity-b2e59 e8_1.html

rustyoldma
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:20 am Post subject:

We are subsiding the fat people. We are doing their work, paying extra taxes for their welfare, and taking care of their children with free lunches and now breakfasts at school, food stamps and free child care. As long as WE give they will take. Why would you not want to be fat? It is the best scam ever. I'm sick - give me more.

lo_mcg
Yahoo User

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:32 am Post subject:

I don't believe for a second that anybody has been successful in claiming incapacity benefit for obesity or acne. Have any of you any idea how difficult this benefit is to claim and receive? I couldn't get it temporarily when I had cancer.Don't believe everything you read in the papers.And if I were an employer, I'd employ whichever candidate was most suitable for the job, regardless of their appearance.Ok if the position was steeplejack, probably an obese applicant wouldn't be suitable. Similarly a judgemental person who thought all fat people were greedy and lazy wouldn't be suitable for any sort of caring profession or human resources, say.

fatjerry500
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:16 am Post subject:

I have found over the last 9 years or so as I have gained 400 pounds to be 620 that my work has not suffered at all. In fact, I have had two promotions. I do work for an employer who recognizes that their fat and obese employees are very good and very loyal workers. We have a number of us who are large. After spending most of the last nine years traveling, my new position has me in the office and my director went out of her way to arrange for a work space that was designed to accomodate my size. Some others have this as well and since she has been gaining lately (she just passed 300) I know she wants to make sure we have a great work environment. I have not found that our fat or obese employees cannot pull their weight (bad pun I know) when it comes to work and are actually better at being at work all the time and are ill less than those who are not fat or obese. This could be just my situation - but it is what it is.

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