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This is for anti-Feminists. Would the spraying of schoolgirls with acid turn you against masculinists?


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Elmbeard
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:38 am Post subject: This is for anti-Feminists. Would the spraying of schoolgirls with acid turn you against masculinists?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7724505.stmThe Taleban is an extreme example of masculinism, where the philosophy is geared to the exclusion of women and the emancipation of men in a secular world where they are threatened.I have just seen on the news of two motorcyclists in Qandahar spraying schoolgirls with acid after first removing their burqas, because they object to the education of girls.My penfriend in Iran is a doctor who once had to treat a 13-year-old girl in a wheelchair who was beaten and crippled by a mollah as punishment for cycling in the street inappropriately dressed.Is this just punishment for the way Western women have treated men, in particular excluding them from employment and their children on the grounds of prejudice?Or do you think two wrongs might not make a right?At the risk of colouring the debate, I have to say that I support the education of girls, and do not support the spraying of schoolgirls with acid or their beating to a pulp for any reason. I am against feminism for much the same reason I oppose these extreme things.I do hope there are some who disagree with this to have the courage to speak up and educate us. As for male exclusion at work, I have first-hand experience of this, as can be witnessed in any public sector office, primary school or social services department, and increasingly in all walks of life except the boardroom, lorry drivers and the building trade. I have worked in HR specifically laying off men and recruiting women to improve "Equal Opportunities" statistics, before being laid off myself.

Saraneth
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:47 am Post subject:

i think the world is very screwed up.

Shivers
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:48 am Post subject:

Wow. That is not right at all. I don't know how you can begin to think that spraying innocent schoolgirls with acid is just punishment for something that happens/could happen on the other side of the world.I am all for men to equally share custody of children and it should happen, except in certain circumstances where abuse/violence has occured and that law needs to be revised for it to become more equal. That is still no excuse for disfiguring someone innocent/putting their life at risk. This wouldn't turn me against masculinists, only the people resposible for this.But, how are men excluded from employment because of women?Edit- Thanks for the added info and sorry if I jumped to a wrong conclusion. That is terrible about your employment story.

ProfessorC
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:54 am Post subject:

These are extremists and men need to stop them. I can not let your gross distortion go unchallenged- Western women have not excluded men from employment nor their children. And you damn well know it. I earned my job and so did other women. Far more men abandon their children than are restricted from visits.

Vinyl Mesh
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:56 am Post subject:

I'm already against masculinists.However being an anti-feminist doesn't make you a masculinist.Just like being an anti-masculinist doesn't make you a feminist.Gender equality ftw.-EDIT, really? last time i checked hardly any men get 50% custody and even less get majority custody.Bringing a child to the cinema every weekend is not enough, most men want to be proper fathers!

Don't mean maybe, either
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:59 am Post subject:

Those people who did those astrocities do not represent anything but theirselves

munchkin
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:03 am Post subject:

I am in favour of old fashioned gender roles - but that's personal. Whilst I do not understand why a woman would want to be treated the same as a man, or to act like a man...I am certainly not in favour of anyone being mistreated. The whole reason I am against the feminist movement is because so many of the principles of it are aimed at emasculating men - therefore mistreating them. How dare you suggest that just because someone is opposed to modern day feminism they are supporting this sort of barbaric treatment of girls? There is a huge difference between supporting the rights of women to be educated (and not sprayed with acid) and supporting the so-called "rights" of women to take men's position in society away from them.

Untamed Rose
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:03 am Post subject:

First...where are you seeing masculinist...or punishment b/c of western feminism in that article? Taliban doesn't equal masculinist, they are a radical Muslim terrorist group, they are just as willing to kill a man of anther religion or tribe as a women who steps out of line. Second as Horrid as this is...I'm very sad to say this isnt something new, treatment of women like this has been happening for 100's of years now. How is this any different from the acceptably of honor killings, or stoning a women b/c she was rape, or selling a 9 year old to be a bride?Third...this is why feminism is very much needed!

John
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:06 am Post subject:

What a horrible crime to do to anyone.I doubt that western women have excluded males from anything. I always thought that women and minorities were the ones that faced the most discrimation.

A Pregnant!! Christian
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:26 am Post subject:

The Taliban aren't "masculinists", they are possessed. Their religion has so twisted them that they see it as acceptable to stone a 13-year-old to death in public for being raped. I am a nonfeminist (with slightly anti views) but I wouldn't assume that every man who calls himself a masculinist would do what those evil men have done, or would support or condone it in any way. So my answer is no. Things like that turn me against the extreme Muslim men out there who are that evil.

bazspur3
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:31 am Post subject:

my idea of masculinity is raising my family to the best of my ability with my wife. to be there as much as possible and understand whatever needs they have and offer advice and support. i also try and have some fun as we all need to laugh now and then. spraying anyone with acid is not something i associate with being a man more a monster. contrary to popular belief, we are not all the same.

funnelweb
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:35 am Post subject:

Wrong is always wrong. Why do you even need to ask?People who think there is any justification for such a thing are sick b@st@rds. By the way what has this got to do with the changing roles of men & women?The ways of taliban extremists & modern western society are worlds apart. What is the purpose of your question?

louisebro
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:20 pm Post subject:

These men squirted acid filled water pistols at these girls because they were attending school, and they are against the education of girls. Masculinism? The Taliban are male supremacists regarding gender and religion. This is is rank woman hating, and for you to make any links with supposed injustices committed against men in the west by this 'illuminati' of feminist despots, you so stupidly conjure, is an absolute outrage! As for the job market..take a glance around..you laid off men and hired women because they would have been a cheaper option, and the firms doing this would have used this Equal Opportunities malarkey to justify it. the most valuable commodity in the labour market at the moment is the people who will reinvent it, industries come and go with the global capitalist tide, and did so way before women could get their crinolines out the carriage doors! Women move in and out of the market when economies dictate...the surplus army and all that!

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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:36 am Post subject:

shut upp you whore

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